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Old 07-10-2007, 08:27 PM
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Hello again,

The problem: I am trying to install the MySQL GUI tools onto my PC-BSD system.

The steps I've taken:

I read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I went to the MySQL website and clicked download, MySQL GUI Tools - I did not see any download for a BSD system. (I did, however, see a 'Generic' Linux TAR - I recognize TAR from the research I've done on Packages...tarball right?, I also saw a Fedore Core RPM)

Next, I went to http://www.pbidir.com to look for MySQL GUI tools. - No results

Next, I searched http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ and searched for MySQL GUI Tools - No results

I re-read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... ports.html - this document reads as if there is a port and/or package for the application desired, but it does not cover what to do if you do not find your desired application. (Please do not take the previous statement as a flame, it is just something I noticed about the document.)

I re-read the 'Quick Guide' on my desktop with regard to installing applications - again, no suggestions on what to do if your application is not in the ports list.

I read 'Installing Software' under 'Guides' on this board. It suggested downloading the LinuxBaseFC4 pbi file and installing it. When I do, it asks me the following: "Replace linux_base-fc-4_9 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) with linux_base_fc-4_6?" - I clicked 'No' and the installation closed.

My Questions:
1. Should I have said 'yes' to replace the base set?
2. Since there is a base set on my system, does that mean I can install the FC4 RPM from the MySQL website?
3. Can I install the .tar file?
4. If I can install the .tar file, how do I go about doing so?
5. If I install either file, is there a chance I will screw something up on my system?

Please Note: the reason I have not attempted to install the rpm file already is because I am finally up and running with the majority of the software I need for web development and I don't want to screw it up to the point that I have to reinstall, so please forgive me for not jumping in head first.

I have tried to include all the information I could think of, but if I've missed something, please let me know.

Thank you for taking the time to help me out.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by leskiles
I re-read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... ports.html - this document reads as if there is a port and/or package for the application desired, but it does not cover what to do if you do not find your desired application.
If this is the case you probably will have to do it "the hard way" and configure and compile the program from source with the included scripts
(Configure, Install or something like this). But there is a good chance you will have to patch the source code before it will compile under
FreeBSD (because there is no port for it).

The (definitely easier) alternative would be to search through the ports collection again. Maybe you can find a program there which suits your
needs too (mysqlcc or phpMyAdmin for example).
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If you search for 'mysql' in the portname, you'll find a whole bunch of MySQL related ports. Including a fair few GUIs. I'm not sure which one you want, but you can take a look at the results here:

http://www.freshports.org/search.php?st ... rch=Search
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I use Navicat for Linux and Win.
I find it quite good
http://www.navicat.net/download.html?gc ... gAodiS2KmA

Advertises as having a BSD version but the Downloads show Win, LINUX and Mac Universal binary.. So I am thinking either the LINUX or Mac Universal will run..
THere is a free trial and support..

Knoda
Here is a very generic KDE/python written front end..I use Knoda also..
Have and up to date Python and download the hk_classes from the download site also..
Free and you will like it as a front end and produces entry forms..

http://www.knoda.org/

Good luck the more sql and python programmers the better.. :wink:
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:58 PM
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Thank you all for your help.

rta0043: I'm not a 'real' programmer as yet. (Well, not for xNIX yet, I do program VB, and to some, that's not a real language ) I'm only a web programmer thus far, so patching the source code isn't going to happen, but it's nice to know that when I finally do conquer a real language, I'll be able to help myself.

Solarin: Thanks, I searched through the list you started and I think I might try the ksqladmin tool (I think that's the name, but the site is down for 2 hours right now.) The majority of the listed programs were for administration purposes, and that is great, but the benefit of MySQL GUI Tools is the ability to write stored procedures and functions with language recognition, etc.

sqlpython: I took a look at the Navicat site, but I would have the same problem I"m having now...no direct BSD port or native version. I will take a closer look at Knoda.

Skills recognition:
After going through this issue, I'm realizing I need much more experience with xNIX systems, especially my chosen flavor of BSD. I'm sure more than one of the users of this site have gone through this: knowing one system very well, only to get a new one and feel pseudo helpless. I will conquer it though, I cannot let it beat me!

Further Research:
I think I may have an older computer back in the closet. I'll throw pcbsd on it and see if the Fedora RPM of MySQL GUI Tools will install. If not, I'll install the LinuxBaseFC4.pbi and allow it to overwrite th 4_9 with 4_6 and see what happens.

One last question:
What is "linux_base-fc-4_9"? I figured, by the context of the message, that it was the libraries that would allow Fedora ports to run, but if that's the case, why would there be a LinuxBaseFC4.pbi file with 4_6?

Thank you all again for your insight. I'll learn this system sooner or later.
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