yes, pcbsd needs support, but... - PC-BSD Forums

adonis · #1 06-07-2006, 05:15 PM

i must have something realy good to support.

right now i'm a linux user (not experienced one but still.). recently i heard about BSD and decided to give it a try. but before first instalation, i wanna know that i'll have all necessary software for usual and everyday work on my machine. tipical desktop computor.

well, i must say that i'm dissapointed with that part. if you want me (and people like me) to spread the word, i must show others that this sistem realy works and what it can do. and all that must be simple enough for everyone.

just one example to explain my point of view. one of many.

k9copy is a great software for linux for making copies of DVD9 to DVD5.
although i saw some reports about bugs it worked great so far. also, i saw a request for putting k9copy in PBI directory. but, as i saw it was rejected. WHY?

you can say that i can install k9copy for linux and it will work. you can say i can use some other command line software to do it. and you're right...i can...but when i show that procedure to windows user, he/she give up instantly. that's what windows did to users. made them spoiled and stupid. they need simple point and click install software and working in it. after all, can anyone blame them? people doesn't have time for more.

there are a lot of software missing in PBI directory. without it, it's just "a nice to show your friend" sistem but...

adonis · #2 06-07-2006, 05:20 PM

i see it's on freebsd ports. but, i installed pcbsd 1.1 once and it just couldn't connect to freebsd ports.

anyway i can translate doc on my languange (see signature) and look for bugs...saw so many bugs on linux...that's why i'm intrested in BSD.

popey · #3 06-07-2006, 05:47 PM

If a pbi is not available you can install the freebsd package, open a konsole, logon as root, then

Code:

pkg_add -r k9copy

You can check for availability here ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports ... .1-release
If a package is not available you can install and use the ports to compile it from source.

mal.exe · #4 06-07-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by adonis

i must have something realy good to support.

right now i'm a linux user (not experienced one but still.). recently i heard about BSD and decided to give it a try. but before first instalation, i wanna know that i'll have all necessary software for usual and everyday work on my machine. tipical desktop computor.

well, i must say that i'm dissapointed with that part. if you want me (and people like me) to spread the word, i must show others that this sistem realy works and what it can do. and all that must be simple enough for everyone.

with PC-BSD, you s well

just one example to explain my point of view. one of many.

k9copy is a great software for linux for making copies of DVD9 to DVD5.
although i saw some reports about bugs it worked great so far. also, i saw a request for putting k9copy in PBI directory. but, as i saw it was rejected. WHY?

you can say that i can install k9copy for linux and it will work. you can say i can use some other command line software to do it. and you're right...i can...but when i show that procedure to windows user, he/she give up instantly. that's what windows did to users. made them spoiled and stupid. they need simple point and click install software and working in it. after all, can anyone blame them? people doesn't have time for more.

there are a lot of software missing in PBI directory. without it, it's just "a nice to show your friend" sistem but...

Wow! Then why don't you make the PBI that is missing my friend ?

TerryP · #5 06-07-2006, 08:31 PM

I'm sure if you got 20 people and promised to pay $20 to each of them for every successful PBI they made. We'd have PBIDir fatter then ports, but a broken PCB$D rather then a PCBSD!

PBI are still being made by people who are giving there time to make them.

Quote:

i saw a request for putting k9copy in PBI directory. but, as i saw it was rejected. WHY?

The only reason why I know a PBI would be rejected. Is if it was not suitible to be desributed as a PBI. One of the people that approve PBI's could exsplain properly I'm sure.

mal.exe · #6 06-07-2006, 09:45 PM

There can be many reason, from to too buggy to be release to not following the pbi philosophy!

YetAnotherNoob · #7 06-08-2006, 12:09 AM

If it copies DVDs, it's probably illegal (DMCA).

Quote:

you can say that i can install k9copy for linux and it will work. you can say i can use some other command line software to do it. and you're right...i can...but when i show that procedure to windows user, he/she give up instantly. that's what windows did to users. made them spoiled and stupid. they need simple point and click install software and working in it. after all, can anyone blame them? people doesn't have time for more.

I don't know if it's correct to lump all Windows users into the same category like that. Sure, a lot of them will give up as soon as the command line appears, but those are mostly the same ones that can't get things working in Windows either.

mal.exe · #8 06-08-2006, 12:11 AM

For the record, copying DVD is not illegal everywhere....

The U.S. ain't the world...

Amigamerlin · #9 06-08-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by adonis

i must have something realy good to support.

right now i'm a linux user (not experienced one but still.). recently i heard about BSD and decided to give it a try. but before first instalation, i wanna know that i'll have all necessary software for usual and everyday work on my machine. tipical desktop computor.

well, i must say that i'm dissapointed with that part. if you want me (and people like me) to spread the word, i must show others that this sistem realy works and what it can do. and all that must be simple enough for everyone.

with PC-BSD, you s well

just one example to explain my point of view. one of many.

k9copy is a great software for linux for making copies of DVD9 to DVD5.
although i saw some reports about bugs it worked great so far. also, i saw a request for putting k9copy in PBI directory. but, as i saw it was rejected. WHY?

you can say that i can install k9copy for linux and it will work. you can say i can use some other command line software to do it. and you're right...i can...but when i show that procedure to windows user, he/she give up instantly. that's what windows did to users. made them spoiled and stupid. they need simple point and click install software and working in it. after all, can anyone blame them? people doesn't have time for more.

there are a lot of software missing in PBI directory. without it, it's just "a nice to show your friend" sistem but...

Adonis don't get me wrong but I'm pretty sure that the reason why K9 wasn't approved because was a wrong PBI, as the other missing PBI.
A lot of PBI were not approved and it's normal.
Don't worry, availability of PBI are growing just now and I'm pretty sure that someone will build it in the right way.

Anyvay let me try to try to build it

.

Bye

Gerard · #10 06-08-2006, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Amigamerlin

Originally Posted by adonis

i must have something realy good to support.

right now i'm a linux user (not experienced one but still.). recently i heard about BSD and decided to give it a try. but before first instalation, i wanna know that i'll have all necessary software for usual and everyday work on my machine. tipical desktop computor.

well, i must say that i'm dissapointed with that part. if you want me (and people like me) to spread the word, i must show others that this sistem realy works and what it can do. and all that must be simple enough for everyone.

with PC-BSD, you s well

just one example to explain my point of view. one of many.

k9copy is a great software for linux for making copies of DVD9 to DVD5.
although i saw some reports about bugs it worked great so far. also, i saw a request for putting k9copy in PBI directory. but, as i saw it was rejected. WHY?

you can say that i can install k9copy for linux and it will work. you can say i can use some other command line software to do it. and you're right...i can...but when i show that procedure to windows user, he/she give up instantly. that's what windows did to users. made them spoiled and stupid. they need simple point and click install software and working in it. after all, can anyone blame them? people doesn't have time for more.

there are a lot of software missing in PBI directory. without it, it's just "a nice to show your friend" sistem but...

Adonis don't get me wrong but I'm pretty sure that the reason why K9 wasn't approved because was a wrong PBI, as the other missing PBI.
A lot of PBI were not approved and it's normal.
Don't worry, availability of PBI are growing just now and I'm pretty sure that someone will build it in the right way.

Anyvay let me try to try to build it

.

Bye

I created that k9copy pbi but it crashed on some of the testers' computers. I'm trying to find out as to why.

Will try to get a working pbi soon.

--Gerard