version 8 is a big step back !

[bsdaddict]

Hi,
PC-BSD 8 is a huge step back ! Hardware recognition is not working like in 7.1.1, the update from 7.1.1 to 8 messes things up,... So if i sound a little pissed off, that is because i am.

The upgrade from 7.1.1 to 8 went smoothly. No problem there. But then the reboot and the new login screen. My name appears on the screen. I enter my password. Nothing. Again, i enter my login and password. Nothing. No login possible. I open a console, the user still exists. I change the password and try to login on the new screen. Nothing. No way to log in ! Ah, and now ? Ok, instead of an update, we go for a new fresh and clean install. Gone all files. Not quit, i made a backup before starting the update on my external FreeAgent disk.
Ok, fresh install goes smoothly. Creating a new user, no problem to log in now.
Aha, time to recover the stuff from my FreeAgent. Euh... no way. Galileo does not find my via Firewire connected FreeAgent any more. In 7.1.1 there was a /dev/da4, now there is not such thing ! Don't know how to mount my drive any more.
Internet then : I have a z-com minipci wifi card. Not recognized of course. The asus card then : yes ! eureka. rum0 is found. I have also a wifi usb stick from Hercules : ral0. And what do i see in the networktray : /dev/wlan0 and /dev/wlan1... Go figure...
My graphics card then : i have a Radeon HD4650. The wiki from x-org says no problem, but you have to use the radeonhd driver version 1.3. Oh, but pcbsd8 has that one ! But then another disappointment : no way to get that radeonhd driver to work with my graphics card. "Unknown card type". So i get stuck with vesa at 1024 (which leaves about 8cm black on both sides of my 23" monitor - not a very pretty sight).
So guys, if this is your best desktop version ever, it is no good...
My desktop is unusable now. I'm forced to go back to Ubuntu. Give me a call when you have version 10 or 12 working. I'll try it again then to see what works.

[DeadLine]

Well, Unlike you...EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT OVER HERE.
wifi, externel drives, vga..

If things didnot work with you as "you expected" - take it easy.
it should work, PCBSD is based on FreeBSD - as you know.

did you take a few minutes to try a manual configuration 4 your drivers?

when you see wlan0 and wlan1, its because you have 2 wireless cards installed
as you stated your self, and as long you see them, you should be able to
make em work. either manualy or with KDE tool.

please check
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... eless.html
IF the KDE tool didnot solve your problem.

regarding X-server, you always can tweak the configuration
please take a look at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... onfig.html

its VERY helpful instruction.

Your login problem could happen because of some src or base files
the file /etc/master.passwd is where your user names and encrypted passwords
are stored, so maybe you have something wrong in that file.

However, To help release version 10 or 12
your help would be highly appreciate by reporting the issues to developers.

Thank you.

-Marwan Sultan

[bsdaddict]

Marwan, I am very glad that it all works great for you But here it does not...
I know "it should work just like that", but it just does not...

I know i have 2 wifi cards, even 3 if i count the usb hercules. My problem is that they change name : what used to be rum0 and ral0 now have become wlan0 and wlan1. Why ? Bug or feature ? Is there any logic in this ? And i'm not even bringing up the issue with the Logitech usb webcam... (the new usb subsystem does seem to have more problems than the previous one, no ?).

Then my FreeAgent firewire disk :
[beni@bsdaddict /usr/home/beni]$ dmesg -a | grep fire
firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
dcons_crom0: <dcons configuration ROM> on firewire0
fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire> on firewire0
fwip0: <IP over FireWire> on firewire0
firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1 cable IRM irm(1) (me)
firewire0: bus manager 1
firewire0: New S400 device ID:002037000a201446
[beni@bsdaddict /usr/home/beni]$
No /dev/ attached. So how do i mount it ? Not as /dev/firewire0. And not a /dev/dax in sight...

For X-org : i will try to post a copy of the relevant Xorg.0.log if i can. Because the computer locks up completely. No way to get into a console with alt-fx, just a hard reboot. And yes, the radeonhd driver "should" work. I know. But it doesn't. Not here.

I am reporting the issues to "the developpers". That is what i am doing here, no ?

[DeadLine]

Dear BSDAddict,

Here is a link for your firewire mount, hope it helps
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10720

And regarding
wlan0 and wlan1
Yes its a new routing issue with FreeBSD 8 and higher.
FBSD 8.x and later uses a different format for the wireless
interfaces. See the entry dated 20080420 in /usr/src/UPDATING

Its like this..
you name your rum0 as wlan0
and then you configure wlan0 (instead rum0)
its like having a virtual or alias name for your wireless device.

If you see wlan it means your wireless device is detected perfectly.

check /usr/src/UPDATING for more information.

Regarding your Xorg configuration,
blv me..Xorg is a great way, you even can have a Auto detect
just read the link i have previously post for you
you will be amazed of what Xorg configuration could have.

Let us know :-)

Best of luck, BSD'er

-Marwan Sultan

[bsdaddict]

Marwan,
Thanks for the pointer to UPDATE for the wlan0.
I will break this thread up into seperate questions, easier to "digest"...
For the firewire : you link is on how to mount (with ntfs-3g) an already recognised disk. So if you have already a /dev point. I don't see any /dev getting attached to my FreeAgent disk in dmesg.
For x-org : i will post my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log. But my screen (and computer) freezes completely when i try to load the radeon(hd) driver. No way to get even in a console with alt-fx.
Beni.

[DeadLine]

Hi Beni,

When your computer freeze and you want to check the logs,
restart, hit 4 from menu (single user mode)
do the follow :
#fsck -y (I would recommend this step always after a crash)

when fsck done, and y our file system marked clean,
do the magic command

#mount -a

Now you have full access to your file system
you can " find / -name xrg.log " or do whatever command you need, check your logs etc..

try to automatic configure your vga card instead of manual.

there is a very useful and nice command in FreeBSD manual book.

#Xorg -configure

Which should auto configure your vga card.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... onfig.html

If you are unable to do the above from single user mode,
you will need to disable the automatic login window to your pcbsd
so when you start your system it will not load the windows and it will prompt
you to terminal command line (as normal FreeBSD system)

when you done from your check ups you can change the file back
and it will again automatic login to PCBSD.

file is /etc/ttys

and link is
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 ... x-xdm.html

ITS SO EASY, if its your first time maybe it look hard, but its easier than the easy

let us know

-Marwan Sultan.

[bsdaddict]

Hi Marwan,
Getting those logs is not that difficult, i know. And until now, a normal reboot does the fsck without any problems (so far...). At the logon prompt i can get to a console and copy the Xorg.0.log.old to any other file, just what i did (see my other thread about my hd4650 graphics card problem).
The automatic configuration works alright, i get a new /root/xorg.conf.new file, but copying it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and overwriting the existing .conf file) does not cure my problem : no image at all... I did see that it uses the Radeon instead of the radeonhd driver (in the Section Device).
So if i want to see anything on my monitor, i am stuck with the vesa driver. And i have the same with the ati, ati-3d, radeonhd or radeon-3d driver...
Beni.