.PBI's and Ports do not like each other

[tryingtolearn]

I have been installing .PBI's whenever possible but ports is needed many times for things too.
Well everything I install with .PBI doesn't show up as installed in the ports list ever. And everything I install in ports never shows up in my start menu or anywhere else where I can find a place to "Start" it. Often these are added libraries and such that work fine once installed. I just don't have access to them to setup options or anything if there are any I wouldn't know.

I installed firefox from ports once, it took 5 hours....
It did NOT show up on my start menu and I NEVER found a place to open the browser. Then the .PBI for firefox came out and I installed it in 2 mins and was browsing with ease. So I am a BIG fan of .PBI's. It would be nice if .PBI installs actually registered in the ports tree as installed programs I think. I realize there may be issues unforseen with this because I can't imagine no one noticed .PBI's didnt register in the ports tree. But it probably would be better overall if one part of the system did know that the other part existed. This could be part of why Zlib and PAMP refuse to work together.

If ports and .PBI were to get together though then we could install stuff with .PBI's that actually registered as installed programs in the ports list (just install kports and open it and check the list of your installed ports and see if Kports is installed).
It is pretty funny to install Kports then open Kports and search "kports" and find out that Kports is not actually installed LOL. Some things I have installed in ports AND .PBI to try and fix this and some of the incompatabilities that come from it. This works about 25% of the time. Most of the time it ends in "failed" but never gives me a clue that I understand as to why. Just "error 1" usually. But not always. Sometimes it fixes my problem!

Anyway my main thing is that stuff doesn't work and it seems that between Ports and Kports and .PBi's lies some kind of answer.

They need to all meet each other,

[marc]

PBI system is truly independent from usual ports and binaries and that`s how it should be.
I`ve never expected it to share inormations between them.
For sake, that`s what`s the best in PBIs ...they just don`t create mess in your system. They can`t destroy ports database or whatever and that`s a great advantage.

[madman]

Ports and PBI's are completely different. It really wouldn't make sence to register a PBI program in ports.

[TerryP]

I've thought of a few ideas for making a PBI come be ID'd the sme as pkg & ports but it's only binary/config files that are linked into your filesystem. If any one copies them they are not making a proper PBI.

Ports/Packages handle dep's, PBI include their dep's just for the PBI keeping it self contained.

For a long time I used only ports and never noticed much dependancy heck, so what if I might have to upgrade some thing first or take a day to upgrade my machine ^_^

[g0lem]

if you want to know what pbis you have installed, check the control center, system tree;
if you want firefox to show your icon in then "start menu", start "menu updating tool";
if you don't know how to start a port fresh-installed, for example firefox, just type "firefox" in the console, from where you just installed it; if it doesn't work, type "rehash" before, then "firefox".

but, seriously now, tryingtolearn, is there anything else you do besides flaming what you don't understand? if something doesn't work for you ask nicely, don't be rude. it's not the OS' fault you have no idea how to use it or that you don't have the patience necessary to actually "try to learn"; and if you don't get help immediately, as you expect everything to be, it's because you don't have respect for anything that's not you or yours. thus impatient, rude. change your attitude.

[TerryP]

Was that flame back? hehehe

<joking>

[g0lem]

nope :P
but ever since he got on this forum he is pi$$ed that nothing works, bla bla, and blames everyone for his problems...
ah well...