begginer Email Pains (solved)

[tryingtolearn]

So umm...

After every reinstall of the OS (on my 8th one now). The KDE thingy fails to open an I/O device. This is fixed by a quick reboot.

1.2 ships with 2 KNOWN CERT issues. the gnupg and Samba both come stock with a remote hack built in and left wide open by default (how quaint). I mean even without 2 KNOWN CERT issues, why in the hell would you leave file sharing and desktop sharing announcing every 60 seconds PLEASE COME HACK ME I AM BRAND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

I mean Apache comes by default with access denied. Wouldn't it make sense for a OS to do the same? This is EXACTLY like Microsoft leaving NETBIOS WIDE OPEN on the WORKGROUP workgroup. I mean the same thing is going on here. This comes by DEAULT with NETBIOS wide open and standard workgroup names like WORKGROUP.
Desktop sharing ON by default? come on man... come on...

I am trying to get away from Microsoft here. This coming by default with the WORST elements of Windows alive and well and transmitting signals is ludicrous. IT IS A BUG. A giant one.

One of the first things I do on reinstall is search "Samba" and "smbd" and delete EVERY file that comes up. (I did try it by leaving the shared library but I have had more trouble from it than by deleting the shared library also). Then I have to uninstall it from ports to finally make it go away as a security threat from a portsaudit.
gnupg must be removed from ports also for the CERT issue to go away...

So after I got the 2 KNOWN CERT issues that 1.2 ships with out of the way. I have a great working system!

until it is left on overnight.....
then strange things begin to happen...
First Kedit disappears from my right click menu. So no big deal I use Kwrite instead....
Then the ability to extract compressed files like tarballs disappears from the right click menu and the machine itself cannot extract even in root terminal any .gz or .zip etc.
I get command not found or permission denied (we'll get to that in a sec).

this is of course after installing several programs from tarballs and ports successfully without issue. By day 2 or 3 that ability is magically gone.

then Permissions... Oh sweet permissions.... How they haunt me still...

So after losing the ability to extract and edit files... I lose permissions...

PERMISSION DENIED YOU ARE NOT WHO YOU ARE. YOU ARE SOMEONE ELSE. YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE IT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO TEST TO PROVE IT. WE HAVE SPOKEN GOODBYE.

Ahhh yes sweet, sweet, magnolia Permissions.... Ahhh....

not providing a way that, when one of those errors comes up a root password may be entered to PROVE the request you made was legit... IS A BUG. A east side Florida Cockroach man.

it is bad enough that little programs keep disappearing right and left as I go along, but to then be told I am not even me? And then given no way to prove it? Brick wall. You lose.

Despite all of this I have managed with relative ease to host 7 registered domains successfully (I can only not send mail OUT but I can receive it from anywhere. still working on that issue)

Rebooting has temporarily fixed SOME issues. Like granted permissions FOR A BRIEF WHILE. But tarballs are history and the whole system is falling apart hour by hour. And it does these things while I SLEEP!

Either I am getting hacked (hard to believe when rock solid PCBSD Icy Steel comes with 2 known CERT issues AND remote desktop and file sharing enabled and broadcasting) or there is a lot of work to be done yet on this OS.

Oh and PBI's install sometimes depending on what folder they are in. My best results come from copying them to the desktop first then executing the runpbi.sh. If they run from most other folders the runpbi.sh starts then stops with no other action.

Last PBI I tried to install was 7zip. the install process went smooth but it does not exist in the start menu or in the right click menu even after reboot. And there is still no way to extract archives. it DOES show up on the remove pbi list. A lot of help that is....

9th install coming soon. I'll probably stop at 10. And go back to windows..... Oh God.... What a nightmare this has been..... Windows is an everyday nightmare though too. But at least it works for short bursts of up to 30 days at a time.

This appears to have a 72 hour cap....

Tons O' Fun man... Tons O' Fun....

At least i don't have to get my money back :) but I still feel a little suckered by the hype of how great this is supposed to be.

One of the better free OS's? well I have tried them all. this one is really good. Rock Solid? *cough *cough ahem... No.

[marc]

"... The system is as good and as strong as it`s admin ..."

[TerryP]

And Windows needs a fery strong admin.

[tryingtolearn]

I can do windows in my sleep I have been using it since 3.1
I can hack the registry and even disable the stream to Redmond, Washington (not that I can stop them from finding me and giving me hell for disabling it. I can just stop me from yelling "hey over here!"). There are some great tools for stopping the csrss.exe and lsass functions that will speed up performance greatly too. But service pack 2 makes a total mess of things.

What is the fastest way to mess up ANY computer??
Log on to the internet with it for 5 minutes.
They all work great up until then. Even Windows(although it gets net lonely after a while and must be fed or it attacks you and your children).

Windows OS's do not belong to you. They belong to Microsoft. And so does your computer when you install it. It is no longer yours other than in its capacity to be used as evidence against you in court for what you do with it. read that user agreement real careful like.

it is just that windows needs to be reinstalled pretty regular for it to work smooth. It gets ... (full) and slows down day by day until you have to redo it. Cleaning temp files helps slow that down but eventually the hidden logs become full (especially if you do not let them send to their mothership). You see EVERYTHING you do on a computer or on the net is recorded. Every keystroke, every mouse movement it is stored until that data can be collected. Hooks are used. by default. I mean it comes that way. Even this PCBSD comes with remote desktop sharing and filesharing wide open by default with 2 KNOWN CERT remote hack issues (samba and gnupg) on top of that!. NETBIOS enabled too with nice easy netbios names. What a great way to log on to the net for the first time in your brand new OS! Put a big sign on that says "HACK ME!!!"

I mean hacking NETBIOS and the Microsoft "WORKGROUP" is an age old tradition because all comps come by default wide open for it. even a dumbass like me can do it. How disenchanting it was to learn PCBSD is no different....

Knoppix is by far the best of the free OS's out there, but it I have had better luck with this for serving pages. But as far as a stable, rock solid, easy to install and use OS for surfing and general functions, Knoppix owns them all. At any price.

My 8th install of PCBSD is going pretty bad. I am losing faith and interest in this pretty fast. If I didn't want to host web pages so bad I would already be gone...

Don't all cry at once....

After all, your systems are working fine, it is only me that sucks at this... Only me...

[marc]

Listen ... I hear you complaining all the time, but tell me just one thing: do you use KDE? If so, then I`m not surprised. If your computer is a server, then you don`t need to use any of these GUI. Use CLI and you`ll be surprised how stable your system is.
And that`s the whole point I think - BSD is rock-solid, stable as hell, but only in it`s first state - when it comes without those fancy GUIs.
GUI - means a lot of additional [maybe buggy?] programs which you don`t actually need - especially when you run server.

[tryingtolearn]

I don't complain all the time, just a lot of it lol
I wouldn't complain at all if what I was told would work actually did. If I had paid for this I would be down at the office in the morning getting arrested for the methods I employed to get my money and satisfaction back.

I hope you mean the Command Line Interface and not the Cisco Learning Institute lol

CLI officially on my list of new languages to learn ty.

[dracheflieger]

Damn Bubba, are you sure you're not my ex-wife?...you sure piss & moan like she did. And why is it that you seem to be the only one having these problems?

Maybe because you 'search for samba and smbd' and delete everything you find? WTF is that? Why don't you just go into your /etc/rc.conf and turn it off? Or better yet, if you need it, go into ports and update it to samba-3.0.23,1, it passes the portaudit. So does gnupg if you update it to gnupg-1.4.5. Every Linux in the world is going to come with these same problems if they released at the same time PC-BSD did.

And you've gotten away from Windows...you don't have to wait till the 2nd Tuesday of every month and hope they'll patch all the holes in your OS. Stuff like this gets turned around quickly. Give http://www.freshports.org a daily visit, click on the more link near the top of the page and look at how quickly things get fixed with a quick turn around.

I had to install PC-BSD 3 or 4 times before I finally got smart enough to leave a few toes on my foot. Once I learned to carry only one bullet...why, off all things...the damn thing has been running rock solid now for over 3 months and I haven't been compromised yet nor do I expect to be.

It's not the OS, it's a problem of PEBKAC. We've been running (Free)BSD at our shop for over 10 years and it's been over 8 since we had any intruders but then we don't go on a search & destroy mission of shit we know nothing about.

I'm certainly not the brightest bulb on the tree but I haven't had the problems you've had. Maybe you and ol' Jack are jus' being a little too close eh?

[DrJ]

What is the fastest way to mess up ANY computer??
Log on to the internet with it for 5 minutes.
They all work great up until then. Even Windows(although it gets net lonely after a while and must be fed or it attacks you and your children).

[snip]

it is just that windows needs to be reinstalled pretty regular for it to work smooth. It gets ... (full) and slows down day by day until you have to redo it.

[snip]

My 8th install of PCBSD is going pretty bad. I am losing faith and interest in this pretty fast. If I didn't want to host web pages so bad I would already be gone...


This is just nonsense. Utter nonsense.

I have a Win98SE box that is 7 years old, and it is on the original OS install. I maintain it, but it is still very lively. No malware in the last four years.

The XP box is connected to the internet 24/7, is still as lively as it ever was, has had two crashes in three years and no malware. Ever.

My two FreeBSD servers are connected to the internet 24/7. No crashes, no malware, no reboots other than upgrades. Hey, they have only been live for a year and a half.

My main FreeBSD workstation? Connected to the internet 24/7, it has had no reinstalls after I redid the file system two years ago. I do crash it regularly because of some of the programs are not well-behaved. BSD itself is stable and reliable. The ports are much less so. No malware ever.

I could go on.

When you are the only one experiencing something, perhaps it would be wise to ask what it is that you are doing differently from everyone else.

DrJ

P.S. If you log on to the internet, what is your login ID and password? You know, I've never had to do that...

[tryingtolearn]

Sorry about venting my frustrations in these forums. I AM actually very frustrated when I write about it but I am very calm and happy the rest of the day I assure you :)
I appreciate all the character observations and banter about comps and OS's.

I am curious though....

Does anyone know where the place I go in the system to say I want a new email account created for Tommy@mydomain.com to send and receive and a new email account for tommy@myotherdomain.com to send and receive?

I mean there is a place to do that right? Or is it more than one?

All the software is installed. I am updating KDE desktop now. I just want the page or file or method to create new email accounts for sendmail.

My current issue still stands:
1. I can receive email (not sure if setup correctly but it works from yahoo)
2. I cannot send email outside of the local network as all boxes are addressed @PCBSD.localhost by default.

Thank You for your assistance in these matters.

[dracheflieger]

Just for grins and giggles, I opened konsole, ran mutt (you'd have to install this from ports) and sent my yahoo account a couple of emails, as a regular user and as root. Both of them arrived by the time I was able to Open my yahoo mail. Of course, they both arrive from user@localhost and they both arrived in the bulk mail folder but the point is that they did send.

[TerryP]

You could always try picking up that acoustic coupler and shout in it:-)

As the front page at samba.org says, "Samba is an Open Source/Free Software suite that provides seamless file and print services to SMB/CIFS clients." Samba is freely available, unlike other SMB/CIFS implementations, and allows for interoperability between Linux/Unix servers and Windows-based clients.

I'd never exspect Samba to be totally secure, it's got to live with compatiblity with a companies software who are out to F them for it. Gnupg I'm sure is maintained by GNU, so any bugs/holes should be fixed realitivly quickly after they are found.

I've never been graced with a dedicated server (beyond a spair PC sitting around). Nore the time, job, and extra time for education on dealing with servers but I do know this.

Inless the application requires a graphical enviroment to run and must be on the machine. Why brother to install even so much as Xorg let along KDE? My intentions of setting up a machine to handling network shares here only has Xorg installed incase some thing happens to my main system (an X Server is not for compiling on an P3 box). I may be stripping the installation as well.

Having been drawn to the CLI, I've seen it's possible to keep a machine managed and controlled through only a terminal if necessary, weather what ever the purpose of the machine is.

Dru (http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/08/26/FreeBSD_Basics.html) also has a small article on servers if it interests you.

PC-BSD has the full power of FreeBSD, and it's a mighty easy desktop -> FreeBSD can be thinned down at installation and turned into the box it needs to be. If security is your #1 concern in the world, OpenBSD is for you. "Only one remote hole in the default install, in more than 8 years!" last release was May 1st 2006.

[dracheflieger]

Have you read any of the Webmin FAQs?

If you have multiple virtual domains and want different users to have different domains in their From addresses, you will need to set the From: address mapping file to the name of a file that maps real email addresses to virtual domain email addresses. This must be a text file, with each line containing :
username fromaddress
The username part of each line must be the user's Usermin login, and the fromaddress is the new From address to assign to that user. The username can also be the user's full email address as it currently appears, such as joe@yourserver.com.

http://www.webmin.com/faq.html

[tryingtolearn]

Thank You I am on it... stand by for results...

[TerryP]

Good luck

[Dingens]

hey, the screenshots lokks amazing. great work.

[tryingtolearn]

Meant to respond to this a while back sorry about that. That worked everything is way cool now.

My only issue now is how to duplicate my system or even my website (with mysql databases) onto another system or to a new url location. I am making a new thread for that so respond to that there if you now a reasonable way to achieve that.

Peace through PCBSD.