trashware with pc-bsd

why do not create a tiny version of pc-bsd,with fluxbox or icewm,for resume up the old pc?
at the moment,linux is the just way for old pc like pentium1 :)

[Thulemanden]

why not create a tiny version of pc-bsd,with fluxbox or icewm,for old pc?

Yeah, the option to start e.g. icewm in case of kde problems is useful. However I understand the goal of being a slick integrated OS for the red neck familiy user with no experience but an icewm wouldn't hurt.

Naturally it can be installed later, it just requires knowledge of a few commands and preferably talent for editing the menu and toolbar files in icewm. No big deal, but the average joe user shouldn't have to do it.

Thus an icewm installtion alternative would have to be complete with icepref and iceme and a great number of menu items included by default.

I do understand that if we wanted different GUI's we coulkd simply install freebsd and put in in ourselves, but still, icewm could be good for troubleshooting kde and accessing the net for solutions.

But it seems to me that KDE on BSD is a little faster than on Linux. Anybody got a comment to that?

[pcbsdusr]

It's not KDE, it's FreeBSD.

since the change from 5.x to the 6.x FreBSD there were radical speed improvements.

I have tried some Linux distros since our advance to 6.x and PC-BSD always feels faster exept for the boot.

[TerryP]

I've never noticed any major speed diffrence between Linux Kernel 2.6.x + GNU User Land + Distro crap and FreeBSD 6.0-Release but I don't use Linux very much.

I like the Linux Kernel, but not the Operating System family (distros) it creates.

I've run on as low as a 500Mhz katmai core P3 /w 384MB DDR RAM (8MB of which was shared video) and a Celeron-M 390 (1.7Ghz) /w 256MB DDR2 RAM. And PCBSD was plenty fast enough on ether box!

FreeBSD 6.x you can still run on a 486 if you want to go through a few loops more then a 586.

PCBSD is optimised for I686 chips I'd guess because few Desktop machines are going to predate a Pentium 3 or equiv AMD/Intel.

I don't know if twm or w/e that yucky thing I used to use in VNC is included but it'd make a good failsafe as it draws windows on screen:P

[Charles]

For those old computers there are olready solutions (Puppy, Damn Small Linux, etc...). This is not what most people want though.

I haven't seen any difference in speed between any of my operating systems (Windows XP, PC-BSD, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Centos).

hy charles...why do not create "puppy freebsd" or "damn small freebsd"? 8)

[antik]

hy charles...why do not create "puppy freebsd" or "damn small freebsd"? 8)

We already got Frenzy (http://frenzy.org.ua/en/releases/1.0/relnotes.shtml) and FreeSBIE (http://www.freesbie.org/).

[slipstream1]

I understand the goal of being a slick integrated OS for the red neck familiy user with no experience.....

Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

[antik]

I understand the goal of being a slick integrated OS for the red neck familiy user with no experience.....

Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

:D

[Charles]

PC-BSD is aimed at being used by non-computer-savvy people, but rednecks don't use computers anyway 8)

[dracheflieger]

PC-BSD is aimed at being used by non-computer-savvy people, but rednecks don't use computers anyway 8)

How many do you need? :lol: I've got plenty of users here that fit that profile all the way down to the twang :D

[KLU]

re Frenzy... do me a favour! I'm not a sys admin trying to recover a borked server! I wanna have fun! :D

re FreesBIE, I've been looking at that. Might try it. But the current stable version hasn't been updated in over 2 years (2.0 is coming 'soon'), and apparently there are issues with the BSD Installer for putting on the hard drive. And their damned site won't load for me right now! :x :D

Anyone used FreesBIE? Installed it to HDD on old hardware?

re Puppy, I've looked into it, but installing to HDD is apparently a nightmare even for experts.

re DSL, I have it but... it's Linux. Please. Just let us have a light install option for PC-BSD! :cry:

[gammaray]

re Frenzy... do me a favour! I'm not a sys admin trying to recover a borked server! I wanna have fun! :D

If you wanna have fun here is the recepi:1-st cd Freebsd 6.1-Release,install only the base+kernel,cvsup,buildworld and kernel with the right flags,knobs and optimizations,on top of that you build a light wm(fluxbox,blackbox,icewm,even gnome-lite is fast enough) with the same knobs and flags.And tadaaa...you have the fastest system posible for an older machine :P
And Frenzy is fast and good enough installed on disk,you have opera,xmms,mplayer and much more "fun" in it.

[Mister Zig]

re Puppy, I've looked into it, but installing to HDD is apparently a nightmare even for experts.Couldn't be more wrong. It live-boots, then you install graphically.

Runs nicely on my Pentium III.