The Fridge :)

[Charles]

Have you ever opened the Fridge (http://fridge.ubuntu.com/)? :lol:

[mianwright]

No. I had never seen that until now. It is funny you brought this up though. Last Thursday I downloaded Ubuntu because I needed a linux distro to run vmware. I have officially banished windows to my third hard drive!!! I wanted to put PCBSD on drive #1 but right now it is FreeBSD. PCBSD didn't recognize my video card (a S3 Savage4 {OLD :)}) Anyways the point of all this is that Ubuntu fricking ROCKS. I can't believe how smooth it is. I hope PCBSD gets to be that nice soon. I will be using Ubuntu as my main OS for the next few months.

On a side note. VMWARE runs like a champ on Ubuntu but I found a virtual machine that is written FOR FreeBSD. I tried to install it on FreeBSD 6 but it didn't work. Has anyone seen this? (http://http://www.serenityvirtual.com/)

[Charles]

Ian, could you tell us what you like in Ubuntu that PC-BSD doesn't have already so that we can add these features to our wishlist? 8)

[mianwright]

Well lets see. First of all it fits on one disc. I think this is possible because it compresses many of the installation files and decompresses them after the initial reboot. This is my guess.

Secondly, it comes with OpenOffice.org 2 preinstalled. Now I personally think that it is against the stated mission of PCBSD to bundle an office app but if it can be done on one disk then I might be for it. If not then we need the PBI for OpenOffice.org 2. I know it has been awhile and I would volunteer to make it if my skills were up to snuff.

Thirdly, Gnome. I had never used it before and it is SWEET. There is a Kubuntu based on KDE but I haven't tried it yet.

Evolution is a great email client. See number 2.

Mozilla preinstalled. Now again my personal preference is Opera but I got flash and java working on Ubuntu very easily.

Finally, a VMWARE port or some kind of virtual enviornment like crossover to run Money 2005 or Quicken. These two applications in my opinion are the biggest sticking point in anyone switching from windows full time. They are gorgeous pieces of bloatware. I really like Money it is an app that I use everyday and until financial software is up to speed on FreeBSD, we will lag.

Finally, multimedia, but don't even get me started on this....

Ian

[Charles]

I see Ian... I personnally use Opera's embedded e-mail client, I just love it 8)
I think there are tons of useless KDE apps and useless files still in RC1. There are Linux distros that ship with OpenOffice.org, Firefox, etc... and that require only 10MB (Ok, I'm exagerating here :lol: ) But anyway, I'd love to have all the bloat removed too.

It would be cool to have a financial application on the PBIDir (although I wouldn't use it myself). Now, I would definately use an OpenOffice.org.PBI :roll:

Regarding multimedia, I have all I need on *BSD (DVD player, multimedia player), but no PBI yet for Kaffeine, Amarok, etc...

Noatun still doesn't work.

[ggeneraux]

[quote="mianwright"]Well lets see. First of all it fits on one disc. I think this is possible because it compresses many of the installation files and decompresses them after the initial reboot. This is my guess.

Ubuntu may compress their installation files, but I think a major reason they're able to keep the install to only one disc has to do with the 2nd stage install, where the computer reboots and continutes installing programs via apt-get. I'd wager this is where OpenOffice and other larger programs get installed.

[Charles]

I don't think so because the Ubuntu live CD has everything installed, and you don't need to be connected to the Internet.