KDE Freezes on PC-BSD Hubble new install.

[kapz]

Hi! I am a relatively new user of FreeBSD OS and thus PC-BSD.
I downloaded the i386 DVD iso of Hubble and installed it on my Compaq Presario B1800 laptop. Everything went fine with the install. However after logging in the first time in KDE, everything freezed, only mouse moved and nothing else could be done.
I rebooted the laptop and logged in again, only this time after everything was loaded in KDE and I heard the login sound and after a few secs it crashed and prompted the KDM login screen. At this point while logging in m also getting the powerdevil "" invalid profile warning and that I should check the PowerDevil settings...it kept happening(loging in and KDE crashing and returning to KDM again & again, plus the warning message).
So before logging in I changed the login type to 'KDE Failsafe' session and logged in and all works fine..I changed theme, host name, configured fonts, network etc and logged out and logged in and everything worked fine including compositing(yet I still received the PowerDevil warning while logging in). Now I installed a few apps like audacious, deluge and updated system and VLC. After rebooting the same thing happens, KDE crashes over and over and if I click immediately after logging it just freezes and I can only move mouse. However selecting failsafe session gives me a usable desktop w/o compositing...help please!

Thanks

[Fatmice]

Save yourself and install 7.1.1

Hopefully that version will work better.

[kapz]

Hmm...so version 8 is not stable yet?
Thats why the damn thing takes 2 min 20 secs to boot from bootloader to KDE desktop(before freezing)...but ver 7 does not have kde 4.3.5...
I'll just hang 'till some more suggestions before removing ver 8.

[kapz]

So much for the community support......



(and they say BSD is better than linux....my ass)

[woockash_o]

Did you tried to change your power management settings? Maybe it is something concerning that Power Devil error. If that doesn't help I would try to replace the Power Devil with another power management software. But honestly speaking, I think this is something with video card driver or with composite manager. I would try to remove the composite manager and then check if your graphics card is working properly in normal mode with some 3d stuff (games or screen savers). But we will not resolve the problem is this way of course... You will only know what is the matter of this bug.
Sorry, but your problem may have many causes, so I can't give you the ultimate answer. Version 8 is not yet as stable and polished as 7.1.1, so by installing it you must be prepared for few surprises like in beta release.
I think that BSD isn't better than Linux. Linux has more users, so it is better tested and its way of development is faster.

[Fatmice]

So much for the community support......



(and they say BSD is better than linux....my ass)

Sport, figure it out. If you can't figure it out, then it's no ones problem but yours.

I already gave you a solution. If you don't like it, then it's no ones problem but yours.

If you like Linux, then stick with it. Why did you bring yourself headache then regurgitate nonsense here? It's no ones problem but yours.

Go back to your linux friends. :)

Oh, and your way of reporting problem(s) is very good. I'm sure the Linux people are more adapted to help you as clearly I'm not. Everybody knows that in the BSD way, you must sacrifice children to ease the UNIX god. :twisted:

[woockash_o]

So much for the community support......





I don't think that linux community gives you better support. Many problems are unsolved forever just like in BSD. I was using linux for many years so I know how it looks... There is only one big difference: PC-BSD community is still very small, so the chance for finding the solution is also not so big.

[kapz]

Good..make one comment about linux bsd comparison and the dead thread comes alive....simple ain't it!

Now I tried changing PowerDevil settings but it does not help, and frankly I think its not the problem, coz many ppl are facing it.

But on the other hand...as posted before, if I choose KDE Failsafe session and login and logout and login back with KDE empty session..everything works like vanilla including compositing, and I can logout as many times I want w/o any problem, its after reboot the KDE default session crashes...

Now I have tried it the 'BSD Way' but could not determine the problem.

@woockash_o - I completely agree with your point(about the community and all), but had to scratch!

@Fatmice- The BSD Way is for FreeBSD users not PCBSD, it's Supposed to be smooth and USER FRIENDLY after testing versions and all. And oh yeah I did consider your advice as mentioned and know what I DIDN'T LIKE IT A SINGLE BIT! it was very introvert.

[Fatmice]

Good..make one comment about linux bsd comparison and the dead thread comes alive....simple ain't it!


Maybe it is best never to mention such thing in the first place.


Now I tried changing PowerDevil settings but it does not help, and frankly I think its not the problem, coz many ppl are facing it.

But on the other hand...as posted before, if I choose KDE Failsafe session and login and logout and login back with KDE empty session..everything works like vanilla including compositing, and I can logout as many times I want w/o any problem, its after reboot the KDE default session crashes...


Then the problem is with KDE itself. In the failsafe session, certain things are not loaded...you will have to figure out which of those things are giving you the finger. For this, you will need to dig through KDE logs and configuration files...something that I will never do...Just not worth your time (I'm perfectly happy with a console and xfwm)...


Now I have tried it the 'BSD Way' but could not determine the problem.


Oh no, the BSD Way would be to start with a clean BSD and install KDE. This is a pain I'm sure...but no more painful than what you're experiencing!


@Fatmice- The BSD Way is for FreeBSD users not PCBSD, it's Supposed to be smooth and USER FRIENDLY after testing versions and all. And oh yeah I did consider your advice as mentioned and know what I DIDN'T LIKE IT A SINGLE BIT! it was very introvert.

Well, I can't help it if you don't like my advice...But it is odd that you would not consider 7.1.1 for "smooth" and "user friendly." What's in KDE 4.3.5 that you can't live without?

And you never mention the spec of your Compaq Presario B1800...and no don't make the helper dig it up either. That's not nice. One thing that I've heard over and over again is that laptops are notorious for not cooperating when it comes to hardware since the vendor use the weirdest shit.

[kapz]

Thanks for posting Fatmice :)

Yeah! I was waiting for such response...anyways as you said the problem is with KDE, still digging at it...I am not using 7.1.1 because in ver 8 everything works perfectly fine, its just that KDE is a lil' bit screwd up, and the machine boots slow and shuts slow.

And uh, sorry about this:
Laptop Specs:-
Intel centrino single core - 1.7Ghz
2 GB DDR2 RAM, 60 GB IDE HDD, Realtek AC97 sound chip,
Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS,910GML Express display chipset family.
Realtek 8139 Family NIC.

If anyone know there is a known issue with my hardware then please buzz the thread. Thanks.

[Fatmice]

Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS,910GML Express display chipset family.


Did you check if this chipset is supported? It might ultimately be the culprit.

How did the 1st time xorg configuration went?

Did you check this website (http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/)?

[kapz]

Hi, I checked the website for compatibility and my laptop is not mentioned in there..and neither the Laptop/display chipset is supported by FreeBSD according to HARDWARE.TXT file. :|

But it still works great...its just a small problem with KDE.

Anyways will try to install old version of PC-BSD and see if everything goes fine, if it does then the culprit is KDE. Then will wait for KDE4.4 and reinstall ver 8.

[Fatmice]

Hi, I checked the website for compatibility and my laptop is not mentioned in there..and neither the Laptop/display chipset is supported by FreeBSD according to HARDWARE.TXT file. :|

But it still works great...its just a small problem with KDE.

Anyways will try to install old version of PC-BSD and see if everything goes fine, if it does then the culprit is KDE. Then will wait for KDE4.4 and reinstall ver 8.


If it is due to KDE then get rid of KDE and install something lighter like FVWM or Blackbox.

[kapz]

Yeah, I can opt to change DE like Gnome, but m not minimalist and I love using KDE, everything out of the box...

I tried 7.1 and it works fine(except the powerdevil thing)
so I guess I will have to wait till devs pull out ver 4.4....... :(