7.0.2 improved nvidia performance

[bozotheclown]

Hi all,

Maybe it's just me but what's the use? When I install PC-BSD my 8GB of ram turns in to 2.5GB of ram because I have 2 8800GTS512 cards in my machine.

I'm getting tired of waiting for a decent 64bit FreeBSD kernel as that obviously is what's holding Nvidia from releasing 64bit drivers for 64bit FreeBSD/PC-BSD.
I've seen what Nvidia is asking for so they can offer proper support and it's not the world, it's nothing outrageous. The FreeBSD kernel guys could have finished it a long time ago.

PC-BSD is great in every aspect I tested except the GPU support in the 64 bit version and the fact that the 32bit version of PC-BSD, like FreeBSD doesn't support over 4GB of ram in a PC (which is ridiculous, even windows can support over 4GB on a 32bit OS, take a look at Windows Server 2003!).

When will the dinosaurs of FreeBSD kernel development wake up?

Patrick

[TerryP]

I've seen what Nvidia is asking for so they can offer proper support and it's not the world, it's nothing outrageous. The FreeBSD kernel guys could have finished it a long time ago.


If you have any, I'd be interested in links, nVidia is my favorite brand ;-)


PC-BSD 32-bit doesn't support large amounts of RAM, because the kernel configuration does not use Physical Address Extension; since PC-BSDs kernel is just a custom configured build of FreeBSDs, it can address more then 4GB - just like FreeBSD, but requires PAE. FreeBSD uses the same hack that Windows does, it's called implementing support for PAE, and has undesirable side effects in FreeBSD i386: not all drivers will work correctly with 32bit PAE kernels, and all LKMs must be compiled with PAE support to mate with a PAE kernel.. and that means you are really SOL if you require an closed source LKM that doesn't support PAE on FreeBSD 32-bit.


It would be nice if PC-BSD included a PAE kernel/modules set along side the standard SMP kernel (so trivial), but I am glad that they don't ship a PAE kernel out of box as the standard 32-Bit kernel --> The PC-BSD devs ain't done enough testing of anything the likes of which that would require, to make sure users don't get fscked, and I don't expect them to do that anytime soon.




When will the dinosaurs of FreeBSD kernel development wake up?


Tried sending them quality patches?

<openbsd-users-voice>
They write the code, we use the OS, good trade.
</openbsd-users-voice>

[bozotheclown]

Link: http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests

I know the kernel issues are in fact FreeBSD issues and if FreeBSD's PAE implementation is flawed it should be fixed by the FreeBSD dinosours:)

I've tried submiting code to the kernel tree but I stopped my effort years ago.

I've seen what Nvidia is asking for so they can offer proper support and it's not the world, it's nothing outrageous. The FreeBSD kernel guys could have finished it a long time ago.


If you have any, I'd be interested in links, nVidia is my favorite brand ;-)


PC-BSD 32-bit doesn't support large amounts of RAM, because the kernel configuration does not use Physical Address Extension; since PC-BSDs kernel is just a custom configured build of FreeBSDs, it can address more then 4GB - just like FreeBSD, but requires PAE. FreeBSD uses the same hack that Windows does, it's called implementing support for PAE, and has undesirable side effects in FreeBSD i386: not all drivers will work correctly with 32bit PAE kernels, and all LKMs must be compiled with PAE support to mate with a PAE kernel.. and that means you are really SOL if you require an closed source LKM that doesn't support PAE on FreeBSD 32-bit.


It would be nice if PC-BSD included a PAE kernel/modules set along side the standard SMP kernel (so trivial), but I am glad that they don't ship a PAE kernel out of box as the standard 32-Bit kernel --> The PC-BSD devs ain't done enough testing of anything the likes of which that would require, to make sure users don't get fscked, and I don't expect them to do that anytime soon.




When will the dinosaurs of FreeBSD kernel development wake up?


Tried sending them quality patches?

<openbsd-users-voice>
They write the code, we use the OS, good trade.
</openbsd-users-voice>

[TerryP]

Thank you kindly.

[neighborlee]

So, does anyone know what the status of this nvidia 64bit driver is ?

I would LOVE to take this new galileo for a spin, but I can not get by without the 64bit OS for many reasons , first of which is blender 3d.

Thanks anyone

nl

[jkxx74]

(Warning: this is a rant and nothing more but Nvidia has been getting on my nerves a lot lately..)

Nvidia's been excusing the lack of a FreeBSD driver on the lack of some kernel feature that they insist must be there for them to drivers that work. At the same time the reasoning is "we want the utmost in stability and performance", which is total bull shit.

Nvidia's drivers are crap whether it's BSD, Linux, or Windows they're running under except they seem to be putting somewhat more effort into the Windows ones. In UNIX, it seems there's a 50% chance the computer will reboot simply from starting a 3D app. If this is what nvidia considers the utmost in performance and stability, then we are royally screwed.

On the other hand, I can hear ATI users' screams about lack of support still so Nvidia still seems to be top dog here.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

[neighborlee]

(Warning: this is a rant and nothing more but Nvidia has been getting on my nerves a lot lately..)

Nvidia's been excusing the lack of a FreeBSD driver on the lack of some kernel feature that they insist must be there for them to drivers that work. At the same time the reasoning is "we want the utmost in stability and performance", which is total bull shit.

Nvidia's drivers are crap whether it's BSD, Linux, or Windows they're running under except they seem to be putting somewhat more effort into the Windows ones. In UNIX, it seems there's a 50% chance the computer will reboot simply from starting a 3D app. If this is what nvidia considers the utmost in performance and stability, then we are royally screwed.

On the other hand, I can hear ATI users' screams about lack of support still so Nvidia still seems to be top dog here.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

I dont see how this helps anyone, let alone me and anyone else that needs this support.

Rant all you want, but not at our expense , those of us that require civility to be adhered to really need this support , - in hopes of seeing nvidia take this seriously.

So I reiterate, what is the status of this ?

thx
nl