About Acer 5583 NWXMi

[kucing ireng]

Well, hello everyone :)
i'm newbie here, so please don't laugh at my dumb questions :oops:
i just want to ask :
1. i install pcbsd on my laptop Acer 5583 NWXMi and when i shut down it, it's not turn off my laptop is it normal ? :?:
2. i,ve tried to search how to install marvell yukon driver on mya laptop but it seems i need to know how to install it and make it works. how i install it and make it works?
3. i,ve tried to search how to install intel pro abg 3945 driver and make it works and i just find driver for linux. do somebody have the driver ?
4. in xp my laptop can use dial up connection. how to make a dial up connection in pc bsd?

i apreciate every answer you guys give me ...... :oops:

[TerryP]

1/ it will only work if the system can do it via ACPI -- works for some systems but YMMV, you might check for BIOS updates and see if that helps.

2/ I know there is a FreeBSD driver for a certain marvell yukon ethernet NIC but I'm not aware of there laptop sets, what kind of yukon chipset does your laptop use? Maybe someone might know where to find it.

3/ Intel 3945 wireless, see this thread (http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9763&hilit=intel+3945)


* FreeBSD can shutdown all of my systems, the one running OpenBSD however needs me to push the power button afterwards :\

[kucing ireng]

well i,ve checked the bios and there is no bios update and i've see the thread too about 3945 intel pro, i've tried to install it too. one thing i can not understand is where is the part of line that should i change according to the readme.

it's marvell yukon 88E8038. i've download the drive file right from marvell.com, it's .tgz file and i don't see any readme on the tgz file what should i do ?

oh yes and i've tried to use ndisgen i want to know where is the file that ndisgen hav ebeen generated? i've searched it everywhere and i couldn't find it.

sorry for my bad english, hope you understand what i mean :oops:

oh, thanks for the reply, i just open it.

[TerryP]

According to the FreeBSD manual that chipset /should/ be supported by the msk(4) (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=msk&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-RELEASE&format=html) driver.

If you open the k-menu and go to the run menu, type in the box:

kdesu konqueror

press enter and use the root password on the popup dialog that appears. That should launch Konqueror in super user mode (in restricted access to the system).

navigate to the /boot folder and open the file loader.conf

add this line to the bottom of the file:


if_msk_load="YES"


save the file, close konqueror, and give a reboot and *in theory* the network card should be detected.



Afraid I can't be much help with the Intel Wireless or NDISGEN, because I've never actually gotten my laptops broadcom card to work with it, my solution was buying a supported Netgear PCMCIA card hehe.

[kucing ireng]

this is dmesg file that i get from my machine after follow the instruction from http://www.sofee.cn/blog/2006/08/05/27/#more-27 using driver that i download from marvell.com

Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 #7: Thu Apr 17 11:21:34 EDT 2008
root@pcbsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSD
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz (1666.80-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SS E,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
Features2=0xe39d<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM>
AMD Features=0x20100000<NX,LM>
AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
Cores per package: 2
real memory = 526974976 (502 MB)
avail memory = 501850112 (478 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <INTEL CALISTGA>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1
ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0: <PTLTD XSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
unknown: I/O range not supported
Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x17> port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle1: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu1
acpi_throttle1: failed to attach P_CNT
device_attach: acpi_throttle1 attach returned 6
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <Intel 82945GM (945GM GMCH) SVGA controller> port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xd0300000-0xd037ffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xd0400000-0xd043ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory
agp0: aperture size is 256M
pci0: <display> at device 2.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: <multimedia> at device 27.0 (no driver attached)
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pci3: <network> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1820-0x183f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1840-0x185f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1880-0x189f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: <Intel 82801GB/R (ICH7) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xd0644000-0xd06443ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: <Intel 82801GB/R (ICH7) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ugen0: OEM Camera, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci10: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
cbb0: <PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0xd0204000-0xd0204fff irq 20 at device 9.0 on pci10
cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
pci10: <mass storage> at device 9.2 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH7M SATA300 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18b0-0x18bf at device 31.2 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
battery0: <ACPI Control Method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
acpi_button1: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> flags 0x1000 irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xdf800-0xdffff on isa0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
ums0: vendor 0x15d9 USB Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: 76319MB <Hitachi HTS541680J9SA00 SB2OC70P> at ata0-master SATA150
acd0: DVDR <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A/EX31> at ata1-master UDMA33
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A EX31> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
pcm0: <Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller> mem 0xd0440000-0xd0443fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
pcm0: <HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883>
pcm0: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
mykc0: <Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8038 based Ethernet Controller Ver. 8.14.9.3> irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
mykc0: 0x4000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff).
myk: could not map memory
device_attach: mykc0 attach returned 6
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
drmsub0: <Intel i945GM>: (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0300000 0MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119

is there something wrong there please help me.....

[TerryP]

the list of drivers for that network card (hhttp://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverSearchResults.do) only shows a driver for FreeBSD 7, which shouldn't work with PC-BSD 1.5 as it is based on FreeBSD 6.3.

They also seem to have a general driver (http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?driverId=139) for FreeBSD 6.0.

I haven't downloaded the files since I don't have the device, so I don't know if they are even designed with any compatibility in mind other then the 6.0/7.0 releases.


You may wish to try the msk driver provided by FreeBSD for your release -- which according to the manual is based on Marvell's driver and the sk(4) driver.

[kucing ireng]

Well, i,ve tried to load the msk driver like you suggest me and the result is like the dmesg message up there. oh yes the driver that i put it in and it result the dmesg message is the general driver you have talking about. well should i quit trying ?
oh, well i'll try it once again. from the beginning. wish me luck !

Oh, by the way I get surprise when I tried to install pc bsd on my pc at home. It works very good :D . But only one problem that when I activated compiz fusion, my computer did not mount my flash disk anymore :( . What is the problem ? :?: Here is my pc stats :
motherboard : asus p4b533
vga : nvidia 400 mx
memory : 256 mb
a lot of thanks for your concern once again !

[TerryP]

With that kind of card and ram, I'm surprised the system can take compiz :\


I've two machines, one good enough to handle Compiz but no time to break things with it ;-)

[kucing ireng]

well,
i've tried from the beginning and when i install marvel 88e8038 with mykbsd60-8.14.9.3.tgz. like this:

tar -xfv mykbsd60-8.14.9.3
cp myk.ko /boot/kernel
kldload myk.ko
vi /boot/loader.conf
i add --> if_myk.ko_load="YES"

i got dmesg just like i sent few days ago.
and i got very brilliant idea and messing around with the kernel, i compile the kernel well but that's another failure.
than i install pcbsd 1.5 again from the beginning and i tried to load msk.ko like you suggest and i do the procedure like above and it's a failure again. :cry:

well can you tell me something about it ? :?:

oh yes, about intel pro 3945 abg onlu available for freebsd 7.0. no wonder i tried to install it and ended with failure again. :oops:

[TerryP]

beats me then, sorry :\

[kucing ireng]

well, it's not your fault, besides, my pc at home worls fine with pcbsd 1.5 :mrgreen: . so i guess i use freebsd 7 for my laptops. wish me luck.

oh btw is there any freebsd forum like pcbsd ?

[TerryP]

Good luck


As far as forums, you might like to check out daemonforums.org

BSDForums is now defunct but useful for searching, most people moved to daemonforums ;-)

[kucing ireng]

Well, it's me again..... :oops:
i've tried to install freebsd 7.0, my question is :
1. when my laptop shutdown it's not shut down completely with the power, just the same with pcbsd, is there something i should know about ? :?:
2. i just want to ask how can i set freebsd into full desktop usability os like pcbsd ?

oh yes, i almost forgot how to use mailinglist in freebsd.org? :oops:

thanks

[TerryP]

Hmm, I could've sworn I saw a similiar post on daemonforums >_>


Using a mailing list on FreeBSD is the same as anyother OS -> through a mail user agent.

shutdown without having to push the power button is done via ACPI, which is purely a case of YMMV much like the quality of ACPI implementations at times...


"full desktop usability os" has different meanings to different people. Your starting point would probably be to open an xterm and install kde


su - root
Password:
pkg_add -r kde && rehash && xmessage -center "kde is installed"


The FreeBSD handbook gives detailed instructions on setting up KDE, Gnome, etc and X.

[Protagonist]

Well, it's me again..... :oops:
i've tried to install freebsd 7.0, my question is :
1. when my laptop shutdown it's not shut down completely with the power, just the same with pcbsd, is there something i should know about ? :?:
2. i just want to ask how can i set freebsd into full desktop usability os like pcbsd ?

oh yes, i almost forgot how to use mailinglist in freebsd.org? :oops:

thanks

You could always give the PC-BSD Alpha 7 a try. It actually is very stable. And it is based on FreeBSD V7.

[kucing ireng]

where can i download pcbsd alpha 7? When is the release version comes up?
oh yeah i want to make clear something i mean full usability os is
1. login not via virtual terminal
2. has an office equipment
3. all hardware is functioning well
4. i like to try something lighter than kde... maybe fvwm ?

thanks :wink:

[TerryP]

The developers post on the testing mailing list whenever there is a new build available, I'm not sure if they have nightly snapshots still running or not.


For something lighter then KDE, it is really easier to use PC-BSD with KDE until you are able to 'live without it', since the PC-BSD'ims become less reliable without a full kde session.

Under regular FreeBSD (and PC-BSD, when used accordingly) it doesn't matter what you have installed.


I'd suggest Xfce4, lite, integrated, and popular desktop environment.


fvwm, can be rather minimal until ones read a few thousand lines of documentation and written a configuration file lol.

[kucing ireng]

thanks, i think i'll try pcbsd with xfce first.... :D

oh yeah, i want to ask about installing gtk+ i cannot found it in the port, where can i get it and what is the depandancy for it ?

here the full story :
i install pspp 0.6.0 (thanks for the quick response) and i tried to activate the gui mode via terminal with psppire. and it cannot activated. i read again and it's need gtk+, libglide, pkg-config, i get all except gtk+. i finally get it but i cannot install it it say i need libtiff and i try searching via google and i more confuse. can you help? :?:

and i where can i report a broken ports? i tried to install freemind via port and it cannot find the package. what should i do? :?:

thanks once again

[TerryP]

the best way to locate software in the ports tree is IMHO with the psearch program (as root: pkg_add -r psearch). The freebsd website and 'search' make targets in /usr/ports are also helpful.


*Broken* ports should be reported to the maintainer after testing with a current sup of the ports tree, you should find the maintainers e-mail listed in the pkg-descr and Makefile files in the ports directory.


gtk+ is also known as gtk 2.x because of the age old compat issue between gtk 1.x / gtk 2.x libraries they are in ports as x11-toolkits/gtk12 and x11-toolkits/gtk20 for GTK 1.2.x and GTK+ 2.x.x respectively.



I believe the math/pspp port was updated to 0.6.0 about 4 or 5 days ago.

[kucing ireng]

thanks for the answer, i'm downloading gtk+ now...
i'll report later well, btw are you the same TerryP from daemonforums.org? :?:

[TerryP]

Yes, the one and only crazy spider ;-)

[kucing ireng]

hi, it's me again....
i bring very good news about pspp and psppire things. this is what am i doing:
cd /usr/ports/math/pspp
make deinstall
make config
(i activate psppire/gui and postrqsl)
make install clean

ta da.......
i type psppire in run progam from kde (alt-F2) and it's works!

thanks guys.... :D

[TerryP]

cheers

[kucing ireng]

hi guys !
it's me again. no... no... iwill not complain about things and that anymore cause it have solved. :)
1. the msk problem : i met the msk maker and he say to disable the acpi and it works so he say again that i can use pcbsd 1.5 with acpi disabled and he told me the way to do it. :D
2. the fvwm : my friend told me to try fvwm crystal and i try fvwm crystal, it seem unstable when the system is busy (more like gnome), so i try fluxbox and as far as now i satisfied with it. :D
the fvwm itself is good clean and stable but when my mother see it she said "yuckk!! was your computer broke down again?" :D
3. when i try pcbsd 7 it seems that the problem occur so i disabled the acpi and walah! :o it's worked !
so it seems that the acpi problem in freebsd and pcbsd had'nt solved yet. but it's okay at least i can use my laptop with pclinuxos and slackware after i several time wiped out slackware installation (because it seems slackware share the same acpi problem with freebsd).
4. oh yes does anyone knows why slackware forum in indonesia or the international one is like a ghost town ? where is the forum of slackware ?

hey the last word....
thanks for listening my whinning annoying question and everything !
greet,
kucing ireng a.k.a black cat

[TerryP]

the fvwm itself is good clean and stable but when my mother see it she said "yuckk!! was your computer broke down again?" :D


My mother says the same thing, when my monitor is in "console" mode hehe.


As to Slackware forums, I only drop in on LinuxQuestions.